{"id":137,"date":"2005-08-04T19:30:00","date_gmt":"2005-08-04T23:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/?p=137"},"modified":"2005-08-04T19:30:00","modified_gmt":"2005-08-04T23:30:00","slug":"trying-to-purchase-xten-pro","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/?p=137","title":{"rendered":"Trying To Purchase XTen Pro"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Looks to me like SipPhone is a dead end company. Its really too bad. My experience trying to purchase XTen pro as described <a href=\"http:\/\/tim.blog.kosmo.com\/blog\/_archives\/2005\/7\/12\/1018771.html\">here<\/a> was a joke.<\/p>\n<p>Here is a thread that followed when I opened a ticket on the issue. How do companies like this stay in business more than a day when they seem to rather NOT have you as a customer.<\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Trebuchet MS\" size=4><strong>Ticket <\/strong><\/p>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td vAlign=top align=left width=260 rowSpan=2>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=\"100%\" bgColor=#bfdbff border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td height=2>\n<table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr bgColor=#f4faff>\n<td width=\"35%\"><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#c41230 size=2><span class=gtext><strong>Last Update:<\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/td>\n<td width=\"65%\"><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#c41230 size=2><span class=gtext><strong>04 Aug 2005 12:22 PM<\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgColor=#ffffff>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#c41230 size=2><span class=gtext><strong>Last Replier:<\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/td>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#000000 size=1><strong><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230 size=2>Tim<\/font><\/span> <\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgColor=#f4faff>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#c41230 size=2><span class=gtext><strong>Status:<\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/td>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#000000><span class=gtext><font size=2><font color=green><strong>Open<\/strong><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgColor=#ffffff>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#c41230 size=2><span class=gtext><strong>Department:<\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/td>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#c41230 size=2><span class=gtext><strong>Purchasing \/ Credit Card<\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr bgColor=#f4faff>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#c41230 size=2><span class=gtext><strong>Created On: <\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/td>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#c41230 size=2><span class=gtext><strong>12 Jul 2005 07:50 AM<\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td vAlign=top align=left>\n<table height=\"100%\" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td vAlign=top align=right><font face=\"Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=4><strong>Trying to purchase XTen Pro<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td vAlign=bottom align=right><a href=\"javascript:closeTicket(&#39;VYQ-97256&#39;);\"><strong><img decoding=\"async\" height=19 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/m_close.gif\" width=64 border=0><\/strong><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/index.php?_a=tickets&amp;_m=printable&amp;_i=VYQ-97256\"><strong><img decoding=\"async\" height=19 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/printable.gif\" width=100 border=0><\/strong><\/a><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/index.php?_a=tickets&amp;_m=listview&amp;_i=VYQ-97256#reply\"><strong><img decoding=\"async\" height=19 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/m_preply.gif\" width=64 border=0><\/strong><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=4><\/p>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td vAlign=top align=left height=25>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=\"100%\" bgColor=#bfdbff border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td height=2>\n<table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"21%\" background=bg1.gif height=1><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#ffffff size=2><strong>&nbsp;Author<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td width=\"79%\" background=bg1.gif><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" color=#ffffff size=2><strong>&nbsp;Contents<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#ffffff>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230><font size=2><strong>Tim<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" height=19 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/m_customer.gif\" width=60><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#ffffff height=1>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230 size=2><strong><img decoding=\"async\" height=16 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/topic.gif\" width=16><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<td><span class=gtext><font face=Verdana color=#c41230 size=2><strong>Posted on 12 Jul 2005 07:50 AM<\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><font size=2><font face=Verdana><strong><font color=#c41230><\/p>\n<hr style=\"COLOR: #666666\" SIZE=1>\n<\/font>I&#39;m trying to purchase XTen Pro. After jumping through many hoops I finally get to the point where I can click on the link to purchase and am presented with some message about not testing my softphone. Please fix this so that I can purchase this software. <\/strong><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#f4faff>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230><font size=2><strong>Tim<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" height=19 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/m_customer.gif\" width=60><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#f4faff height=1>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230 size=2><strong><img decoding=\"async\" height=16 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/topic.gif\" width=16><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<td><span class=gtext><font face=Verdana color=#c41230 size=2><strong>Posted on 13 Jul 2005 09:02 AM<\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><font size=2><font face=Verdana><strong><font color=#c41230><\/p>\n<hr style=\"COLOR: #666666\" SIZE=1>\n<\/font>I&#39;m still waiting for a reply to this. I would think this would take all but 5 minutes to resolve. <\/strong><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#ffffff>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230><font size=2><strong>Chris Lawrence<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" height=19 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/m_staff.gif\" width=60><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#ffffff height=1>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230 size=2><strong><img decoding=\"async\" height=16 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/topic.gif\" width=16><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<td><span class=gtext><font face=Verdana color=#c41230 size=2><strong>Posted on 02 Aug 2005 10:12 AM<\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><font size=2><font face=Verdana><strong><font color=#c41230><\/p>\n<hr style=\"COLOR: #666666\" SIZE=1>\n<\/font>That filter has been cleared on your account.<\/p>\n<p>However, you may have noticed that we no longer sell Xten-Pro&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I would recommend trying out our new (free) software www.gizmoproject.com. I think you&#39;ll find that it works far better.<\/p>\n<p>\ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Chris Lawrence<br \/>Sipphone Support<br \/>http:\/\/support.sipphone.com <\/strong><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#f4faff>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230><font size=2><strong>Tim<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" height=19 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/m_customer.gif\" width=60><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#f4faff height=1>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230 size=2><strong><img decoding=\"async\" height=16 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/topic.gif\" width=16><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<td><span class=gtext><font face=Verdana color=#c41230 size=2><strong>Posted on 02 Aug 2005 11:00 AM<\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><font size=2><font face=Verdana><strong><font color=#c41230><\/p>\n<hr style=\"COLOR: #666666\" SIZE=1>\n<\/font>I hope it doesn&#39;t take another 2 weeks to answer this ticket.<\/p>\n<p>In any event, I tried Gizmo and as far as I can tell it will not come close to meeting my needs. I didn&#39;t see any way to have it connect to my OWN VoIP provider which is exactly what I&#39;m trying to do with XTen.<\/p>\n<p>Will you folks be making XTen available for free then if you are not selling it anymore? It is a shame that you&#39;re trying to lock people into using SipPhone by not providing the software or means to connect to any VoIP provider. <\/strong><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#ffffff>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230><font size=2><strong>Sip Phone<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" height=19 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/m_staff.gif\" width=60><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#ffffff height=1>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230 size=2><strong><img decoding=\"async\" height=16 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/topic.gif\" width=16><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<td><span class=gtext><font face=Verdana color=#c41230 size=2><strong>Posted on 04 Aug 2005 11:47 AM<\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><font size=2><font face=Verdana><strong><font color=#c41230><\/p>\n<hr style=\"COLOR: #666666\" SIZE=1>\n<\/font>Tim, <br \/>Before you come to such hasty conclusions you should probably do more research on NAT \/ SIP \/ UDP traffic. <br \/>First of all we aren&#39;t trying to lock anyone in we are guaranteeing experience. There is no telling what will happen when the gizmo software connects to another sip service.. <br \/>You won&#39;t get gizmo alerts, call balance, presence, all of these functionalities are tightly integrated with our sip \/ back end services.. <br \/>this is what makes our service work not that we are tying our users in to an open sip proxy. <\/p>\n<p>Anyway please use another solution. <\/p>\n<p>-Digi<br \/>SIPphone Support<br \/>http:\/\/support.sipphone.com <\/strong><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#f4faff>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><font face=\"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\" size=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230><font size=2><strong>Tim<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" height=19 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/m_customer.gif\" width=60><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#f4faff height=1>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=\"100%\" border=0>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=1><span class=gtext><font color=#c41230 size=2><strong><img decoding=\"async\" height=16 src=\"http:\/\/support.sipphone.com\/topic.gif\" width=16><\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<td><span class=gtext><font face=Verdana color=#c41230 size=2><strong>Posted on 04 Aug 2005 12:22 PM<\/strong><\/font><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><font size=2><font face=Verdana><strong><font color=#c41230><\/p>\n<hr style=\"COLOR: #666666\" SIZE=1>\n<\/font>You haven&#39;t provided me with any useful response here as to why you have discontinued use of SipPhone. The only conclusion I can come up with AGAIN is that you are trying to LOCK me into using Gizmo which doesn&#39;t solve my needs.<\/p>\n<p>SipPhone solves my needs. The free SipPhone Lite solved my needs and I liked the product enough to BUY the Pro version with the slightly advanced features.<\/p>\n<p>Gizmo does nothing for me just like Skype does nothing for me for this specific purpose.<\/p>\n<p>It is amazing that I&#39;m struggling to become a customer and you folks seem to be going to a lot of trouble to keep me from becoming a customer. It just baffles the mind.<\/p>\n<p>I&#39;ll certainly go elsewhere and if\/when I do need a solution like Gizmo I&#39;ll use Skype instead or a number of more popular ones. You should indicate to your smart business folks that the business model you seem to be following died about 4-5 years ago.<\/strong><\/font><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><\/font><\/font><strong>Update: <\/strong>Just read <a href=\"http:\/\/www.engadget.com\/entry\/1234000070058415\">this ridiculous interview by Engaget<\/a> with CEO of SipPhone Michael Robertson. So much BS being slung around here its unbelievable really.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Looks to me like SipPhone is a dead end company. Its really too bad. My experience trying to purchase XTen pro as described here was a joke. Here is a thread that followed when I opened a ticket on the issue. 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