{"id":508,"date":"2009-06-10T16:09:33","date_gmt":"2009-06-10T20:09:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/?p=508"},"modified":"2009-06-10T16:09:33","modified_gmt":"2009-06-10T20:09:33","slug":"ray-ozzie-has-been-assimilated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/?p=508","title":{"rendered":"Ray Ozzie Has Been Assimilated"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I had a lot of respect for <a class=\"zem_slink\" title=\"Ray Ozzie\" rel=\"wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ray_Ozzie\">Ray Ozzie<\/a> until I read this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2009\/06\/08\/ozzie_google_wave\/\" target=\"_blank\">article titled &#8220;Google Wave anti-web&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It seems that Ray has been drowned in the <a class=\"zem_slink\" title=\"Microsoft\" rel=\"homepage\" href=\"http:\/\/www.microsoft.com\">Microsoft<\/a> Cool-Aid and has been <a class=\"zem_slink\" title=\"Borg (Star Trek)\" rel=\"wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Borg_%28Star_Trek%29\">assimilated<\/a> by the MS Borg.<\/p>\n<p>Ray Ozzie created <a class=\"zem_slink\" title=\"IBM Lotus Notes\" rel=\"wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/IBM_Lotus_Notes\">Lotus Notes<\/a> and Groove. Two very well respected and useful collaboration tools. However, a number of statements he makes in the article are just absurd.<\/p>\n<p>First the anti-web statement. No idea where he is coming from here. There is nothing anti-web about <a class=\"zem_slink\" title=\"Google\" rel=\"homepage\" href=\"http:\/\/google.com\">Google<\/a> Wave. They are using open standards, <a class=\"zem_slink\" title=\"Open source\" rel=\"wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Open_source\">open source<\/a> and I believe the whole damn thing works in a web browser. How is this anti web?<\/p>\n<p>Second, he says &#8220;Ozzie said the open web relies on open data formats and protocols, not opaque packages and payloads being tunneled across the web&#8221;. Well, Wave is based around <a class=\"zem_slink\" title=\"Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol\" rel=\"wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Extensible_Messaging_and_Presence_Protocol\">XMPP<\/a> protocol which is an open web standard.<\/p>\n<p>Third, I have no clue what he is trying to say here: &#8220;He did not explain exactly how he believed Wave to be complex. Instead he suggested that Wave would rely on open source &#8211; because without it, Google&#8217;s collaboration platform would be too complicated for those outside the company to implement.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Fourth he says &#8220;&#8221;Google Wave and Mesh are basically the same thing&#8221;. That is another ridiculous statement. If you look at the Wave beta and the Mesh beta you won&#8217;t see much at all that is the same. All I see Mesh doing right now is syncing files. (perhaps the full release will do more). Not very exciting and hardly anything to do with real-time collaboration at all. Lets get real Ozzie.<\/p>\n<p>So, to sum up, I&#8217;m with Brent on basically saying that Ray Ozzie is irrelevant. To quote <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ashleyit.com\/blogs\/brentashley\/\" target=\"_blank\">Brent Ashley<\/a> via IM message: &#8220;but yeah, I&#8217;m afraid Ray Ozzie is\u00a0 no longer relevant after that&#8221;.<\/p>\n<div class=\"zemanta-pixie\" style=\"margin-top: 10px; height: 15px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"zemanta-pixie-img\" style=\"border: medium none; float: right;\" src=\"http:\/\/img.zemanta.com\/pixy.gif?x-id=b6122e2f-3502-41c1-976e-b779eed1d45c\" alt=\"\" \/><span class=\"zem-script more-related pretty-attribution\"><script src=\"http:\/\/static.zemanta.com\/readside\/loader.js\" type=\"text\/javascript\"><\/script><\/span><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I had a lot of respect for Ray Ozzie until I read this article titled &#8220;Google Wave anti-web&#8221; It seems that Ray has been drowned in the Microsoft Cool-Aid and has been assimilated by the MS Borg. Ray Ozzie created Lotus Notes and Groove. Two very well respected and useful collaboration tools. However, a number [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[153,152,53,139,141,151,109,116,150,149,140],"class_list":["post-508","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general","tag-assimilate","tag-borg","tag-google","tag-google-wave","tag-groove","tag-ibm-lotus-notes","tag-instant-messaging","tag-microsoft","tag-open-source","tag-ray-ozzie","tag-wave"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/508","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=508"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/508\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":513,"href":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/508\/revisions\/513"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=508"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=508"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kosmo.com\/blogs\/techno\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=508"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}